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Li Soikutsu
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Posted - 2017.07.20 13:02:51 -
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Hello.
Can we please remove drone aggro or at least Nerf it.
Drone aggro is a annoying and tedious features plus it makes some builds pretty bad.
Just running normal anomalies it's not to bad you have to recall a drone rarely, however in DED sites its insane the amount aggro drones are getting making the drone ship (for example drone Proteus) pretty bad in some DED sites.
Also in my opinion it doesn't at extra depth to the game play it simply wants me to not use drone because it's annoying and tedious.
Ofcourse you could say 'go fly something without drones' i suppose i could or they could make it so all fits including drone ships are viable and we can all use what we consider to be more fun fits.
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Li Soikutsu
Vorticon Corporation
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Posted - 2017.07.20 13:33:07 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Drones were never supposed to take zero aggro in PvE sites. The reason for this is that if drones take zero aggro it becomes incredibly easy to setup an essentially AFK setup (cough VNI cough) and the inherent advantages drones have over guns (application, range, fitting) pretty quickly snowball.
CCP indicated that they're looking at a rework of drone/rat interactions in the Carrier thread, but since that seems to be towards curbing AFK gameplay I somehow very much doubt that they're going to go in this direction.
Having to micro and pay attention to your drones is supposed to be the trade-off for all those advantages, and that is interesting gameplay when it works. The current problem is that most of the time there's not much to do besides watch the drone die and send out more after aggro stabilizes, which is less than ideal on the whole.
If the main reason behind drone aggro is anti AFK ratting they might as well build in a simple timer that will auto recall / abandon drone if there is no game activity of any kind for X amount of time.
I would rather have them remove the entire AUTO attack feature (incoming rage ? ) then this non stop drone aggro nonsense.
Anyways thanks for your input o/ |
Li Soikutsu
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Posted - 2017.07.20 19:21:20 -
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First of all thank for all the reply's on suggestions.
I get that some ppl are against removing drone aggro because AFK ratting,even though afk ratting is still more risky considering you have a change to get jumped on when afking. (risk vs reward    )
However i am mainly concerned about the DED sites. If you ever tried running those with a drone boat you soon realise that aggro compared to regular anomlies is completly over the top. Losing a few drones now and then isn't to bad... But all 5 drone pulling insta aggro from the entire freaking room is kinda insane.. even with die hard mico management it's impossible to keep all of them alive.
So either nerf the amount of aggro they are getting or remove it all together. I don't consider it a fun part of the game anyways
I rather spend my time when running DED site looking awesome explosions then staring at the drone HP window nonstop.
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Li Soikutsu
Vorticon Corporation
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Posted - 2017.07.23 22:14:05 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:No it doesn't need 'reliable' tool. What you're asking for is a switch that when fit, says 'my drones are immune to npc's'
Not going to happen. You already have ai that prioritises ewar and remote reps, so a simple target painter is likely to get them to switch target. You can already remote repair drones and only certain types of rats go for drones frequently.
Using drones has huge advantages. The price of this power? They get shot at.
If drone aggro was so bad why is everyone using them? Ishtars, VNI's, Rattlers, gilas, domi's and even the op with a drone proteus...
OP just needs to learn how to use drones.
tbh i am starting to doubt if you ever done a 10/10 with a drone boat, if you did it's beyond me why you would ever defend it.. 
Just did a shansha 10/10 with a drone prot managed to keep most in one piece by following them around (which btw makes the entire thing that makes drones boats awesome obsoleet) but ones you get in the final room every 20 + NPC's will insta switch to the drones every few seconds. I lost 4 praetors before calling it gg. FYI the drones where within 15 km from. The moment they got focused i would insta recall them and some of them couldnt even make it back .. or the made it back in low armor/hull..
It's broken ... i am oke with them getting aggro but the amount atm just retarted.
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Li Soikutsu
Vorticon Corporation
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Posted - 2017.07.25 20:48:31 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Have people forgotten that the op is using a proteus? He can get as close as he wants and tank just fine.
Yes I am using a Proteus. However I don't think most people reallise how bad drone aggro is in DED sites.
Tommorrow If I'll find the time I will try to record the insane amount of aggression drones get in not anomalies but DED sites.
according to some I should keep my heavys within 8km then drones are by far the worst weapon system....
There for i seriously doubt that CCP planned for drones to be used like that. I mean why get all these drone speed bonuses etc if they should be like right next to your ship what's the point....
Anyways incoming recording of DED site drone aggression ASAP.
Also thanks for keeping the thread civil o/
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